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"The Eclipse, Part II" or "Killing Elle Seemed Extremely Unnecessary"

December 2, 2008 12:40 AM

or fuck's sake. I seriously question the intelligence and wisdom of any writers that sit around and think "you know how we've got that character played by Kristen Bell? Let's kill that character!" Fucking stupid.

But, anyway, so, continuing the completely ridiculous trend of doing whatever is most "cool" with characters, Sylar is now back to being totally all about killing people randomly. He doesn't so much care about being a good person or fighting against his hunger for power, he's back to being all creepy and unsympathetic. And so he kills his super-hot girlfriend. Which is fucking lame on so many levels. I mean, why did we have Sylar go through all that emotional turmoil if he's just going to end up in the exact place where he started? Blah.

Oh, and also, what the fuck, Nathan? Haven't we learned our lesson about buying into crazy, ridiculous, playing-God schemes? Remember when you were totally on board with the whole "nuking New York" thing and then you were like "whoa, that was totally a terrible idea, I can't believe I didn't see that before." So then you turn around and you don't see the fucking downside to giving everyone super-human abilities? You're a fucking retard. Oh, wait, no, the writers are making you seem like a fucking retard. Get it fucking together, guys.

The stuff with Hiro and Claire was ok, as was the stuff with Parkman. But the problem continues to be that the episodes are entertaining enough while you're watching them, they just don't hold up to scrutiny. The plot isn't very complex, there aren't really any mysteries to ponder, and the characters are becoming more and more tired.



6 Comments


frank x. said:

The solution is to treat it like a silver age comic book (which it pretty much is). The characters have major flaws that they sometimes overcome but but can never truly conquer. Some action happens, then some character development, then some more action. Villains are likable, sometimes turn good, but then turn bad again. I think you're looking for a Neil Gaiman/Alan Moore type thing when Heroes is more a Stan Lee type show. Not a bad thing. It just is what it is. I am personally waiting to find out that the heroes from Universe 686 are the real heroes and the heroes from this universe are actually fugitives from that other universe, which was devoured by some sort of all consuming hero and now the universe 686 heroes have to find a new universe while still containing the mess created by this universe's heroes.

Also, I really enjoyed the comic store scenes.

December 2, 2008 11:09 AM



Valerie said:

I personally think you should just stop wasting your time and spend it doing something better. Like sleeping. Or watching grass grow. But then, I never liked the show much, ever since the finale of season 1.

December 2, 2008 5:40 PM



Vice said:

I think Frank X. hit it right on the head for me. I've always liked Heroes okay (counting only seasons 1 and 3, of course), and its definitely my type of show. And I will say that season 3 is a drastic and impressive improvement over season 2.

But the show still doesn't have quite the level of complexity I look for in a show like that. I'm not worried so much about the plot holes, honestly. As an avid fan of sci fi, I know even the best of shows often have plot holes, because sometimes writers are so focused on telling the story that they just don't see the holes in the story. When you're stretching into the bounds of the fantastical with these plots, that's bound to happen.

But what I can't accept is shoddy and unrealistic character development and interaction. As Ismael pointed out, the character development is often circular. The attempts at developing romantic relationships have failed spectacularly, especially season 2 (Claire and West, Hiro and the 17th century Japanese girl, Peter and the Irish chick), generally detracting from the show rather than adding some much needed dramatic tension. This is also the case with Parkman and Daphne, who were madly in love with each other after 3 episodes.

And while the writers do try to establish themes and symbollism, more often than not they establish a theme and then keep hitting you over the head with it. For instance, having someone say the word "villains" at least two times per episode. Other times they force themes that just don't make sense in context, like repeatedly calling Daphne a "nemesis," long after the term is remotely applicable. Even having her refer to herself as nemesis like 5-6 episodes after she completely stopped trying to help the bad guys.

I do applaud the writers for their continued attempts at wiping out any memory of the abysmal season 2. Their efforts remind me a bit of Cartman's mom trying to get an abortion for Cartman in the 40th trimester. But yeah, Elle was the only worthwhile character addition remaining (after the unexplained disappearance of Monica, who I didn't mind), and they axed her as well. What bothers me is that she looks a lot like Daphne, only hotter and much less annoying, and they kept Daphne. That's more of a personal preferance than anything though, so I'll cut thems some slack.

Overall, I think the season could still build to something awesome. Like actual conflicts between mega-powered heroes and villains, for instance. The final season 1 battle between Sylar and Peter was a joke. The final season 2 battle between Hiro and Peter was so contrived and stupid. Maybe we'll actually get to see something worthwhile coming. I still have hope that the show can fulfill some of its potential.

December 6, 2008 10:37 AM



Cathleen said:

I’m not wothry to be in the same forum. ROTFL

July 11, 2011 10:10 AM









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